you talk to marco rubio. went to iowa this past week. >> i actually did the interview with rubio in little havana. >> what do you think? >> i was going to ask you. i think he's a fascinating guy. modest. has all the right things. one thing that sticks out for me if he's really going to be a 2016 guy, he is like obama in many ways but he doesn't have the national profile yes. john, the question for you as well, what's rubio going to run on in 2016? >> i think he's got -- look, in this moment of republican rehabilitation and rethinking, they are looking for leaders and what happens over the course of the next couple of years, what role he plays, what profile, he's starting to push his own version of immigration reform. he'll get associated with several big ticket pieces of legislative business and those things will come to define his profile within the party and broader if he's successful at doing what he's trying to do. >> what did you wear to the interview? what did he wear? who were you wearing? >> i wore a